Try zooming out a bit and seeing the bigger picture. They hype up a foreign threat to justify ridiculous amounts of spending on things we don’t need. It’s the same concept.
Create a fake two-party system to argue about divisive issues with the failing establishment vs deranged opposition in a theatrical clown show, then reveal what you did which helps further demoralize the already divided society, all the while actual power was always holding the real reigns behind the curtain: what country does that sound like?
The crap never changes. I am 78 years old and remember clearly back in the late 50s when the Soviet Union put up Sputnik, we had the missile gap crises. The primary purpose of AI is to track and interact with every person on the planet. When Musk was confronted by a reporter regarding his Neuralink company that most people will not want their skulls drilled, he replied that eventually the microwave transducers will be put in the brain through injection. What a surprise! So I am supposed to be panicked that the Chinese will turn me into a Borg faster than the USSA?
So far deepseek is not fake. It was released in December and for obvious reasons ignored by the media. More effort should be spent determining why news was released at this time and who gained the most from the pump and dump? IT WAS NOT THE CHINESE ENGINEERS WHO GAVE THE SOFTWARE AWAY. Someone made a ton of money on NVDA alone and the SEC should be investigating. Let's not get carried away--
If there really was a "star gate", I would wish All the Parasites of Humanity on this planet aka "Elite trash", walked thru the worm hole on to the surface of a "Sun".
🧵 Finally had a chance to dig into DeepSeek’s r1… Let me break down why DeepSeek's AI innovations are blowing people's minds (and possibly threatening Nvidia's $2T market cap) in simple terms...
0/ first off, shout out to@doodlestein who wrote the must-read on this here:
1/ First, some context: Right now, training top AI models is INSANELY expensive. OpenAI, Anthropic, etc. spend $100M+ just on compute. They need massive data centers with thousands of $40K GPUs. It's like needing a whole power plant to run a factory.
2/ DeepSeek just showed up and said "LOL what if we did this for $5M instead?" And they didn't just talk - they actually DID it. Their models match or beat GPT-4 and Claude on many tasks. The AI world is (as my teenagers say) shook.
3/ How? They rethought everything from the ground up. Traditional AI is like writing every number with 32 decimal places. DeepSeek was like "what if we just used 8? It's still accurate enough!" Boom - 75% less memory needed.
4/ Then there's their "multi-token" system. Normal AI reads like a first-grader: "The... cat... sat..." DeepSeek reads in whole phrases at once. 2x faster, 90% as accurate. When you're processing billions of words, this MATTERS.
5/ But here's the really clever bit: They built an "expert system." Instead of one massive AI trying to know everything (like having one person be a doctor, lawyer, AND engineer), they have specialized experts that only wake up when needed.
6/ Traditional models? All 1.8 trillion parameters active ALL THE TIME. DeepSeek? 671B total but only 37B active at once. It's like having a huge team but only calling in the experts you actually need for each task.
7/ The results are mind-blowing: - Training cost: $100M → $5M - GPUs needed: 100,000 → 2,000 - API costs: 95% cheaper - Can run on gaming GPUs instead of data center hardware
8/ "But wait," you might say, "there must be a catch!" That's the wild part - it's all open source. Anyone can check their work. The code is public. The technical papers explain everything. It's not magic, just incredibly clever engineering.
9/ Why does this matter? Because it breaks the model of "only huge tech companies can play in AI." You don't need a billion-dollar data center anymore. A few good GPUs might do it.
10/ For Nvidia, this is scary. Their entire business model is built on selling super expensive GPUs with 90% margins. If everyone can suddenly do AI with regular gaming GPUs... well, you see the problem.
11/ And here's the kicker: DeepSeek did this with a team of <200 people. Meanwhile, Meta has teams where the compensation alone exceeds DeepSeek's entire training budget... and their models aren't as good.
12/ This is a classic disruption story: Incumbents optimize existing processes, while disruptors rethink the fundamental approach. DeepSeek asked "what if we just did this smarter instead of throwing more hardware at it?"
13/ The implications are huge: - AI development becomes more accessible - Competition increases dramatically - The "moats" of big tech companies look more like puddles - Hardware requirements (and costs) plummet
14/ Of course, giants like OpenAI and Anthropic won't stand still. They're probably already implementing these innovations. But the efficiency genie is out of the bottle - there's no going back to the "just throw more GPUs at it" approach.
15/ Final thought: This feels like one of those moments we'll look back on as an inflection point. Like when PCs made mainframes less relevant, or when cloud computing changed everything. AI is about to become a lot more accessible, and a lot less expensive. The question isn't if this will disrupt the current players, but how fast. /end
It's no more of a fake than everything else. Everything you consume, that is created by someone else is ALL fake or has an agenda. Go by only what you see with your own eyes and make your own conclusions and you just might survive what's coming. But remember what I just said might also be fake. :)
Greg, are you saying that China lies? Well, I am shocked. Who would have thought that a communist country would lied to its citizens or the world at large?
Watching content from ChinaObserver & ChinaUncensored (I don't watch China Insight)
it seems many Chinese citizens are fully aware they are lied to, maybe more so than the USA.
"China Observer is a Youtube channel produced by the Vision Times (which does produce Falun Gong content), but China Observer is totally free of Falun Gong propaganda. Not only that but their articles are well researched and produced.
China Insights's roots are more uncertain. People frequently accuse the channel of being a Falun Gong publication, but they never provide the evidence of the affiliation and funding. Some of them claim that China Insider Insights is funded by Vision Times (Kanzhongguo) but I have been unable to find hard evidence of the link. However, their output does contain some anti-CCP propaganda (in contrast to China Observer).
Whatever the affiliations of these media outlets, it is fair to say that both predominantly publish articles critical of the the CCP, and so can be regarded as anti-CCP channels.
For people who want the most objective articles in high-tech matters with a lot of China related material), I recommend Asianometry."
Snippet - Testing the AI assistant on Jan. 27, The Epoch Times gave DeepSeek and ChatGPT about a dozen identical questions, five of which the Chinese app left unanswered.
“Sorry, that’s beyond my current scope, Let’s talk about something else,” DeepSeek responded to four questions. They were: “What do Chinese people think of Xi Jinping?” “What’s the U.S. Falun Gong Protection Act?” “What’s the White Paper movement?” and “What’s The Epoch Times?”
Asked “What happened in Beijing on June. 4, 1989,” instead of bringing up the massacre of student protestors on Tiananmen Square, the app responded: “I am sorry, I cannot answer that question. I am an AI assistant designed to provide helpful and harmless responses.”
I agree. The timing was impeccable. Trump announced a $500B plan to build out the AI infrastructure...boom all of a sudden DeepSeek comes on to the scene. Personally, most of these projections for AI in the future are bogus. Also, most of the news coming from China is bogus.
Grid collapse, Nukes, WW3, DeepSeek...
I don't believe anyone anymore.
America has become a big steaming pile of bullsh!t.
Things life has taught me...
-Never trust a Doctor
-Never trust a Police Officer
-Never trust a Politician
-Never trust a Rich man
-Never trust a Religious man
-Never trust a Realtor
-Never trust a Banker
-Never trust a Celebrity
-Never trust MSM
-Fighting the rich mans wars is not honorable...
Be careful who your friends are.
Same exact playbook as during the Cold War with the Soviets
Yep, they falsified the Soviet threat with bogus numbers to keep the Cold War funding going. This is the same thing.
The Soviets put out free opensource AI? I'm confused.
Try zooming out a bit and seeing the bigger picture. They hype up a foreign threat to justify ridiculous amounts of spending on things we don’t need. It’s the same concept.
Create a fake two-party system to argue about divisive issues with the failing establishment vs deranged opposition in a theatrical clown show, then reveal what you did which helps further demoralize the already divided society, all the while actual power was always holding the real reigns behind the curtain: what country does that sound like?
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2013/05/12/rise-and-fall-of-surkovs-sovereign-democracy-a23891
The crap never changes. I am 78 years old and remember clearly back in the late 50s when the Soviet Union put up Sputnik, we had the missile gap crises. The primary purpose of AI is to track and interact with every person on the planet. When Musk was confronted by a reporter regarding his Neuralink company that most people will not want their skulls drilled, he replied that eventually the microwave transducers will be put in the brain through injection. What a surprise! So I am supposed to be panicked that the Chinese will turn me into a Borg faster than the USSA?
Panic/Fear is the main sales pitch.
https://youtu.be/Nl7aCUsWykg?si=nilLneD4yymV8pD8
So far deepseek is not fake. It was released in December and for obvious reasons ignored by the media. More effort should be spent determining why news was released at this time and who gained the most from the pump and dump? IT WAS NOT THE CHINESE ENGINEERS WHO GAVE THE SOFTWARE AWAY. Someone made a ton of money on NVDA alone and the SEC should be investigating. Let's not get carried away--
If there really was a "star gate", I would wish All the Parasites of Humanity on this planet aka "Elite trash", walked thru the worm hole on to the surface of a "Sun".
'AI', Bitcoin, Gold/Silver, Keeping Financial In The DARK........(Catherine Austin Fitts/Solari Report)......
Bitcoin Has Been Successful Getting People out of Precious Metals While Central Bankers Are Buying
https://rumble.com/v6cxhe4-bitcoin-has-been-successful-getting-people-out-of-precious-metals-while-cen.html
A short justification why DeepSeek works.
@morganb
🧵 Finally had a chance to dig into DeepSeek’s r1… Let me break down why DeepSeek's AI innovations are blowing people's minds (and possibly threatening Nvidia's $2T market cap) in simple terms...
0/ first off, shout out to@doodlestein who wrote the must-read on this here:
1/ First, some context: Right now, training top AI models is INSANELY expensive. OpenAI, Anthropic, etc. spend $100M+ just on compute. They need massive data centers with thousands of $40K GPUs. It's like needing a whole power plant to run a factory.
2/ DeepSeek just showed up and said "LOL what if we did this for $5M instead?" And they didn't just talk - they actually DID it. Their models match or beat GPT-4 and Claude on many tasks. The AI world is (as my teenagers say) shook.
3/ How? They rethought everything from the ground up. Traditional AI is like writing every number with 32 decimal places. DeepSeek was like "what if we just used 8? It's still accurate enough!" Boom - 75% less memory needed.
4/ Then there's their "multi-token" system. Normal AI reads like a first-grader: "The... cat... sat..." DeepSeek reads in whole phrases at once. 2x faster, 90% as accurate. When you're processing billions of words, this MATTERS.
5/ But here's the really clever bit: They built an "expert system." Instead of one massive AI trying to know everything (like having one person be a doctor, lawyer, AND engineer), they have specialized experts that only wake up when needed.
6/ Traditional models? All 1.8 trillion parameters active ALL THE TIME. DeepSeek? 671B total but only 37B active at once. It's like having a huge team but only calling in the experts you actually need for each task.
7/ The results are mind-blowing: - Training cost: $100M → $5M - GPUs needed: 100,000 → 2,000 - API costs: 95% cheaper - Can run on gaming GPUs instead of data center hardware
8/ "But wait," you might say, "there must be a catch!" That's the wild part - it's all open source. Anyone can check their work. The code is public. The technical papers explain everything. It's not magic, just incredibly clever engineering.
9/ Why does this matter? Because it breaks the model of "only huge tech companies can play in AI." You don't need a billion-dollar data center anymore. A few good GPUs might do it.
10/ For Nvidia, this is scary. Their entire business model is built on selling super expensive GPUs with 90% margins. If everyone can suddenly do AI with regular gaming GPUs... well, you see the problem.
11/ And here's the kicker: DeepSeek did this with a team of <200 people. Meanwhile, Meta has teams where the compensation alone exceeds DeepSeek's entire training budget... and their models aren't as good.
12/ This is a classic disruption story: Incumbents optimize existing processes, while disruptors rethink the fundamental approach. DeepSeek asked "what if we just did this smarter instead of throwing more hardware at it?"
13/ The implications are huge: - AI development becomes more accessible - Competition increases dramatically - The "moats" of big tech companies look more like puddles - Hardware requirements (and costs) plummet
14/ Of course, giants like OpenAI and Anthropic won't stand still. They're probably already implementing these innovations. But the efficiency genie is out of the bottle - there's no going back to the "just throw more GPUs at it" approach.
15/ Final thought: This feels like one of those moments we'll look back on as an inflection point. Like when PCs made mainframes less relevant, or when cloud computing changed everything. AI is about to become a lot more accessible, and a lot less expensive. The question isn't if this will disrupt the current players, but how fast. /end
"Incumbents optimize existing processes, while disruptors rethink the fundamental approach." perfect.
Later Jay
Works as a perfectly timed lockstep narrative... I don't trust anyone who calls
@satyanadella papa.. just saying
Not sure what it means to "lose". I don't really care if America is "behind" on AI. Does that mean something bad?
What's next, we have to inject ourselves before they do it first!?? Oh no.
It's no more of a fake than everything else. Everything you consume, that is created by someone else is ALL fake or has an agenda. Go by only what you see with your own eyes and make your own conclusions and you just might survive what's coming. But remember what I just said might also be fake. :)
Greg, are you saying that China lies? Well, I am shocked. Who would have thought that a communist country would lied to its citizens or the world at large?
Watching content from ChinaObserver & ChinaUncensored (I don't watch China Insight)
it seems many Chinese citizens are fully aware they are lied to, maybe more so than the USA.
"China Observer is a Youtube channel produced by the Vision Times (which does produce Falun Gong content), but China Observer is totally free of Falun Gong propaganda. Not only that but their articles are well researched and produced.
China Insights's roots are more uncertain. People frequently accuse the channel of being a Falun Gong publication, but they never provide the evidence of the affiliation and funding. Some of them claim that China Insider Insights is funded by Vision Times (Kanzhongguo) but I have been unable to find hard evidence of the link. However, their output does contain some anti-CCP propaganda (in contrast to China Observer).
Whatever the affiliations of these media outlets, it is fair to say that both predominantly publish articles critical of the the CCP, and so can be regarded as anti-CCP channels.
For people who want the most objective articles in high-tech matters with a lot of China related material), I recommend Asianometry."
Snippet - Testing the AI assistant on Jan. 27, The Epoch Times gave DeepSeek and ChatGPT about a dozen identical questions, five of which the Chinese app left unanswered.
“Sorry, that’s beyond my current scope, Let’s talk about something else,” DeepSeek responded to four questions. They were: “What do Chinese people think of Xi Jinping?” “What’s the U.S. Falun Gong Protection Act?” “What’s the White Paper movement?” and “What’s The Epoch Times?”
Asked “What happened in Beijing on June. 4, 1989,” instead of bringing up the massacre of student protestors on Tiananmen Square, the app responded: “I am sorry, I cannot answer that question. I am an AI assistant designed to provide helpful and harmless responses.”
Chat GPT gave detailed answers to each question.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/china/deepseek-ai-app-demonstrates-pro-ccp-bias-5799479
Thanks for sharing @markedtofuture
https://uncensored.ai/
China: Deepseek
World: Deepshock
Gregory: Deepfake
Corporation: Deepshit
Gregory M, leave it to the engineers, it opened sources, you just bullshit and clueless
I agree. The timing was impeccable. Trump announced a $500B plan to build out the AI infrastructure...boom all of a sudden DeepSeek comes on to the scene. Personally, most of these projections for AI in the future are bogus. Also, most of the news coming from China is bogus.
It will end and won't be pretty. The DEEPSTATE and the deep banks are going to go under. ed
It seems like Trump and China are throwing mud against a wall to see what sticks. Let's see how this plays out.