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DanTheMan's avatar

Apple has been my biggest loss, I've been averaging down and hoping for a bounce.

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Fed Up's avatar

i would hate to hedge now and then lose more on both puts and calls

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Tiago Ribeiro's avatar

I see long puts as "insurance" against a correction while keeping the stocks I love and trust, the same way you insure your house against a fire. If the fire doesn't happen, you don't really get mad about it!

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Fed Up's avatar

also, when would you buy a long put - now when the market has taken a dip? or when it was riding high? i hesitate to do it now as it may turn back up

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Fed Up's avatar

how far out do you go? i may sell a long dated put instead

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Tiago Ribeiro's avatar

I went for July, but I plan to close it as soon as 10Y yield and DXY drop to reasonable levels

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Fed Up's avatar

even in the red?

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DanTheMan's avatar

I am going to weather the storm in my long positions. Historically, I sell too early into a loss and then a few days later the asset pops and makes money.

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Russell Hunter Jack's avatar

Yeah I can gather that. It’s so volatile. Up and down in a flash.

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Fed Up's avatar

same. and aapl is my biggest loss too

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Ryan's avatar

whats the rational for buying opportunities if the 10 yr yield falls along with stocks? can someone please explain that to me?

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Tiago Ribeiro's avatar

Bonds are still seen as a "safe asset" (no clue why, but that's beside the point), so if the yields decrease to a reasonable level (I'd say lower than 1.17), it means that people still have confidence in the american market and the bull run is not over. That's my best guess anyway.

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Ryan's avatar

If stocks fall & 10 yr yield falls = money is moving out of stocks and going into bonds (safe haven). If stocks fall & 10 yr rises = money sitting on sidelines waiting for buying opportunities??? I do not understand

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Fed Up's avatar

i think if the 10 yr falls down to an acceptable level, it may mean more stability for stocks.

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Russell Hunter Jack's avatar

Looking to invest in crypto. Where do you suggest I go Greg.

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G. Graham's avatar

Been investing in crypto's for almost 4 years now. If you need any help just reply & I could give you some Ideas. Good luck

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Russell Hunter Jack's avatar

Thanks. I’m looking to invest small. Just to find my feet.

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G. Graham's avatar

Cool Russell, that's how I start until I got more comfortable & started to trade.

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MAX's avatar

I am not an expert and have been in Cryptos for about a year but what I did is set up in Coinbase 1st , then transfer them to Coinbase Pro (less fee and you can place limit orders) so buy and sell at the prices you want - Then when you just want to hold set up atomic wallet and put everything in there (Safe)

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charlie p's avatar

I have asked gm about this 3 months ago, no response. Find a young person that has a crypto accounts, celsius, paxos and or trust token.

It is difficult to get set-up. Very confusing so don't try it on your own.

Gm probably hired a specialist to set him up, most wealthy persons do.

Many hours invested by me finally setup.

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Russell Hunter Jack's avatar

Got a neighbour that’s into it but he’s like a hermit. Never see him. Just need to knock louder.

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charlie p's avatar

Till he,she answers listen toalit of youtube interviews on crypto.

Alex machinski, celsius. Salor, etc

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W8878788766565's avatar

Jeff Gundlach folded on Gold today. He is no longer a gold bull

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HELLOTOME's avatar

Does anyone still hold ORCL and NFLX? I have a huge loss so far and wonder if I need to add more positions.

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Cassie's avatar

At a massive loss for GM trades ORCL, AAPL, INTC, AXP. Not enough funds to hedge all of these, don’t want to sell at a loss...I guess I will have to wait it out. Any thoughts?

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charlie p's avatar

Don't sell or hedge. Option out 4-6 months you should be ok. Random drift with upward bias. Gm is a 2 handed economist at this time. No clarity.

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JR's avatar

If they're dated long enough, you can hold. If these are options that expire in a week that's a different issue.

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Fed Up's avatar

mine are dated june

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Cassie's avatar

Sure hope so, thanks!

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Ray King's avatar

i wonder what will be the Third T will be... Trump, Texas, and T____.. Pausing, indeed..

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Dangerous Donna's avatar

Holding on Greg !

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Chris-F's avatar

Thanks Greg

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charlie p's avatar

Good 🌅 gm.

Sounds like you're a 2 handed economist.

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Aaron Smith's avatar

Thinking about pulling out of the market and taking the losses.... not liking what I see

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MAX's avatar

Thats what I just did 10Y up , DXY up , Oil Down

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Kelly's avatar

I made a list of my positions myself on paper with the reasons why i own each position. . Yield, gambling, herd following, etc. I put stops on everything I dont hold specifically for yield. Just an idea.

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Fed Up's avatar

for you to pull out and take a loss, does that mean you think any pull back will go on for awhile?

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Maria's avatar

Thank you!

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Erin's avatar

Hedging with put is OTM correct? I need to go look at the book but don’t have my laptop with me

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Chris-F's avatar

IMO it's ITM. Here's frm the "GM bible" :

"Let us say for example that a swing trader just bought OTM calls on company XYZ which do not expire for three months- a typical swing trading strategy. What this means is the trade has time to play out. A trader can hedge this position simply by buying an ITM put which expires out say a week to ten days. I will break down a hedged trade here. A trader buys calls on company XYZ which do not expire for three months, the cost of the option was $1,000 This same trader can simultaneously hedge his position by buying puts on company XYZ which expire in seven days at 1/10th the total cost of his call option. So, in this case the total cost of the put options hedge is $100, or 1/10th the cost of the main trade. A good strategy to follow when hedging is the 1/10th rule. The cost of the hedge should be 1/10th of the price paid for the main trade."

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Erin's avatar

Perfect. So helpful. Thank you!!

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