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illuminati seed's avatar

Just because the Federal Reserve is propping up the market right now, making it appear that things are about to get even more bullish, doesn't rule out the fact that all of this comes down to the next interest rate decision. When the data is insignificant, but the data screams disaster, the Federal Reserve can mantain stability in the markets by doing nothing. When the Federal Reserve makes a decision this is more or less "reactionary", which tells the market that the Federal Reserve is doing something different. The market doesn't like this uncertainty, in uncertain times, especially when bad economic news fuels a bull rally based from inaction of the Federal Reserve. Reactions mean the Federal Reserve is forced to make a decision, and then this forces the hard responsibility that the Federal Reserve claims to offer for the economy. If the Federal Reserve want to keep markets stable, they must keep pausing, but their assets are draining too fast that they can't afford to pause.

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David Becker's avatar

Ita all a bandaid thT will break with the blood of millions of people, even billions! THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK IS THE BIGGEST CRIMINAL INSTITUTION ON THE PLANET PERIOD

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Carter's avatar

Federal Reserve is bleeding out 100 Billion a month even with a magikal money printer

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Randy Best's avatar

The markets are completely unintelligent there days.

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Andy Buchanan's avatar

I’m getting a fucking headache!

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Ni_'s avatar

The FED is a satanic entity.

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Ol Hickory's avatar

Greg in 2008 the crash happened about 1-2 years after the Fed finished hiking. They started cutting early 2008 then the crash happened later in the year. Do you think we could see the same thing, where there’s a crash despite rate cuts?

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Ol Hickory's avatar

I know no one can’t predict a crash, but it’s interesting how the 2008 crash happened after the Fed went back to cutting rates, instead of while they were hiking

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JC's avatar

The Fed and banks will do everything and anything in 2024 to keep the Dems in the White House. I can only see massive pumping ahead.

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Carter's avatar

All crashed happen AFTER the hikes stop and the Fed LOWERS the rate the first time. 100% accuracy. Once the Fed lowers or is forced to lower, expect the crash weeks later

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Ol Hickory's avatar

But the market likes a worse economy because it means more easy money

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Carter's avatar

Study market crashes.. look at what happened just before them. Always a period of tightening then after first rate decrease, within weeks the crash cycle begins. Either way, USD will be inflated out of existence crash or not. A crash will just delay it a bit. We are in the midst of the start a sovereign debt crisis that ends in currency collapse ultimately. End stage for the final solution of CB.. the goal isn't to have a bunch of 401K millionaires.. that's not how communism works

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Ol Hickory's avatar

I know I said that in my first comment I’m contending that this cycle may be different since everyone knows that more QE is coming and any crash will be bailed out. Therefore there won’t be much of an actual crash since most people won’t want to sell

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Carter's avatar

Ill make it simple: Either way USD is worth a fraction. Doesn't matter what the clown market does.

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Ol Hickory's avatar

But could this time be different since the market knows that more QE is coming and that the Fed will backstop everything?

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Carter's avatar

If Fed lowers rates, it means we are already in a hard recession. Once Fed admits to it by lowering rates, markets melt up quickly, then realize that forward guidance means a depressed economy and negative growth, so the panic starts. Once Fed starts QE again, the hyperinflation will begin in a few months this time. The currency is already garbage from the Covid QE. There isn't much value left so any massive printing will show up immediately. In which case, the stocks become worthless anyway. Whether a crash or hyperinflation, it all leads to no purchasing power. I also believe USD will be dumped as the worlds currency by early next year, which means all those FRNs come back to us and Treasury becomes worthless and rates would hike to 30-40%

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Randy Best's avatar

It is all financial engineering with no substance.

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JC's avatar

Just read an article claiming that Saudi is about to crash the oil price, by pumping more oil, to force its competitors, who cannot pump as cheaply as them, economic problems.

It sounds like utter b*llocks.

My first thought is that the cabal wants to start hoovering up energy stocks before oil starts heading up strongly again. The cabal always plant negative stories about commodities and stocks when they want to accumulate.

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Argiem's avatar

The Consumerist religious faithful worship their god BANKSTER on the holy-day Black Friday Sabbath. Little do the believers realize their god is dying and almost dead. The son of the god BANSTER is DEBT. If you truly believe DEBT is your savior, The BANKSTER will love and forgive you by you sacrificing everything you have to BANKSTER. He will keep you and feed you insect manna from on high.

Blessed be the god BANKSTER and his son DEBT. AMEN.

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Mw's avatar

"Fed Pivot" bubble is bursting

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Carter's avatar

Charles Nenner has been screaming rates hikes continue into mid 2025... his cycles see 12-14% FED FUNDS rate. That tells me his cycles are predicting a currency collapse/near hyperinflation. That could be the loss of petro dollar and all those Treasuries become worthless and forced rate hikes to tame super inflation. Putin just met with Saudi crown prince and signed agreement with OPEC to decouple OPEC from USD and peg oil to other currencies. That would be the end for US and the printing press. Once no more reserve status, all those dollars become worthless

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Brook’s Golden State Of Mind's avatar

Greg, this has nothing to do with oil but lots of sudden online business Bankruptcies owing millions are springing up and leaving customers who made purchases begging for their money back. More bankruptcies to come as the consolidation of big businesses wipe out the smaller ones. No merchandise and the money for orders has already been spent . They’re filing bankruptcies and are in the hole . Even warehouses are locked due to no money to pay . I’m seeing a bankruptcy trend here going into 2024 . Thought you may want to take note.

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Ray H's avatar

Crude higher, a weekend risk should there be another drone attack or other event???

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CK_'s avatar

Money supply shrinking is a bad sign:

https://dailyreckoning.com/this-hasnt-happened-since-1933/

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Robin Smith's avatar

A rate pause or hike incoming

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JC's avatar

US markets going south after Europe closed.

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American State National's avatar

1) AAA Bonds being sold as "junk bonds"

2) Global currency backing is NO LONGER THE DOLLAR$

3) 10 major banks just severed all Credit Line companies as of Dec 15th

4) if that isnt the end of life as we know it, you are asleep.

W

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K

E. UP!!!

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JC's avatar

US buying 3 million barrels for its reserve. Below article points out that if 3 million barrels spikes oil by 2 bucks that is a worry for the Biden admin. US strategic reserve will take 8 years at this rate to get back to being full. Even then it will be less than a third of the 1 billion barrel reserve that China has. Biden crime family is destroying the US and taking down the UK, Oz, NZ, Canada and the EU along with it. Thanks Uncle Joe.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/oil-rebounds-after-doe-seeks-buy-3-million-barrels-spr-march

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